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Release the Memo

Post by k.d. » Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:43 pm

A group of 65 lawmakers signed a letter Friday calling on House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes to publicly release a memo they say contains revelations about U.S. government surveillance abuses.

Led by Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., the Republicans said the four-page memo, which by a party-line vote in the intelligence panel was released to the entire House, should be released immediately along with any other relevant information.

"After reading the document, we were shocked and frustrated, but it has deepened our belief in the vital importance of transparency," the letter states.

Dozens of House conservatives have raised the alarm about this memo over the past 24 hours, suggesting it contains evidence that the Obama administration used FISA warrants to spy on both the Trump campaign and transition team — charges Obama officials have long denied.

"This important memo will be of interest to anyone who cares about America and our democratic system of government," the letter continues. "We are writing to request the immediate release of this document to the public, as well as any relevant ancillary information. The audience of this document should not be limited to Members of Congress — the American people deserve to know the information it contains."

Today, I led a group of 65 lawmakers in a letter to Chairman Nunes of the House Intelligence Committee urging the release of the FISA Memo to the public. The American people deserve to know the information it contains. #ReleaseTheMemohttps://t.co/zcTr5QOKSQ pic.twitter.com/J6aQT7wXxN— Rep. Matt Gaetz (@RepMattGaetz) January 20, 2018

Following what would be another vote in the House Intelligence Committee, which needs to be approved by Nunes, the question of whether the memo is publicly released will ultimately be up to the president, as Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, explained on Thursday.

"Here is the process: Chairman [Devin] Nunes in the Intelligence Committee in the House he can he bring the committee back together. They can have a vote. If the majority of the committee votes to release these documents, the executive branch gets a certain amount of time to review them. If the executive branch gives the thumbs up they go public," he told Fox News' Sean Hannity. "This could happen real quick. Chairman Nunes is committed to getting this information to the public.
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Re: Release the Memo

Post by k.d. » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:06 am

Every day more and more about this plot, this conspiracy, against Trump is being revealed. Eventually the MSM is going to have to report it.
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Re: Release the Memo

Post by j.p. » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:15 pm

k.d. wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:06 am
Every day more and more about this plot, this conspiracy, against Trump is being revealed. Eventually the MSM is going to have to report it.
It is way past time for the GOP to rock n roll with all this stuff. But it seems MSM is the story.

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Re: Release the Memo

Post by k.d. » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:47 pm

Just confirm this for me so there is no confusion: You think the FBI losing 5 months of data between Strzok and Paige is a GOP plot and the FBI losing critical texts in the Hillary investigation is also a GOP scheme. I just wanna be clear on this.
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Re: Release the Memo

Post by j.p. » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:05 pm

k.d. wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:47 pm
Just confirm this for me so there is no confusion: You think the FBI losing 5 months of data between Strzok and Paige is a GOP plot and the FBI losing critical texts in the Hillary investigation is also a GOP scheme. I just wanna be clear on this.
"Plot" might be a little overdramatic. It's a guy and his girlfriend, how diablical do those types conversations get ? I think if the GOP has anything they have the power to do something other than report to TrumpTV on it. I just hope Nunes releases everything they have, doesn't seem like he wants to, kinda wonder why.

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Re: Release the Memo

Post by k.d. » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:27 pm

"Secret Society" and 'insurance' sound like a plot to me.
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Re: Release the Memo

Post by j.p. » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:52 pm

k.d. wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:27 pm
"Secret Society" and 'insurance' sound like a plot to me.
Whose words are these ? All they want to release is somebody's summary. They should move on this, I just get the feeling this will turn into a Son of Bengazi movie. Especially since they are tying this drama to non existent evidence, the lost texts from the lovers.

We'll see. Reminds me of old Mad Magazine Spy vs Spy comic strip

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Re: Release the Memo

Post by k.d. » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:51 am


Destroying, suppressing evidence is FBI standard procedure
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Congressional investigators were rocked this weekend when the FBI notified them that five months of text messages from a top FBI investigator into the Trump campaign’s Russian connections had mysteriously vanished.

The FBI-issued cell phone of Peter Strzok, whose previous texts to his mistress (also an FBI employee) showed fierce hostility to Trump, suddenly had problems due to “software upgrades” and other issues — and voila — all the messages between the two from Dec. 14, 2016, to May 17, 2017 vanished. Strzok, who oversaw the Trump investigation from its start in July 2016, was removed from Mueller’s Special Counsel investigation last summer after the Justice Department Inspector General discovered his anti-Trump texts.

Stephen Boyd, the assistant attorney general for legislative affairs, notified a Senate committee that “data that should have been automatically collected and retained for long-term storage and retrieval was not collected.” The missing texts could have obliterated the remnants of credibility of the FBI’s investigation of the Trump campaign.

Conservatives are caterwauling about the vanished evidence but this type of tactic has long been standard procedure for the FBI. Acting FBI chief Patrick Gray was forced to resign in 1973 after it was revealed that he had burned incriminating evidence from the White House in his fireplace shortly after the Watergate break-in by Nixon White House “plumbers.” Gray claimed he was resigning to preserve the “reputation and integrity” of the FBI — but that hasn’t worked out so well.

FBI doesn't have six months of text messages from agent removed from Mueller probe https://t.co/QGsPCzAR1R pic.twitter.com/OUMVsa0r9f
— The Hill (@thehill) January 22, 2018

The FBI has a long history of “losing” evidence that would tarnish its halo. And for most of the agency’s history, judges and Congress have let the FBI sweep its dirt under the rug.

In the Ruby Ridge case, when an FBI sniper gunned down an Idaho mother holding her baby in 1992, the chief of the FBI’s Violence Crimes division was sent to prison for destroying evidence. When a Senate committee held hearings three years later, four FBI agents took the Fifth Amendment rather than tell the incriminating truth about their activities on the Ruby Ridge case. A subsequent Senate report concluded that the five successive FBI reports of internal investigations of the episode "are variously contradictory, inaccurate, and biased. They demonstrate a reluctance on the part of the FBI initially to take the incidents at Ruby Ridge seriously.” Sen. Herbert Kohl (D-Wis.) complained, "I would be asked by the FBI to believe (Ruby Ridge) was almost a model of (good) conduct. The conclusion, is drawn, from ... all the people we've heard, that no one did anything wrong of significance or consequence."

The FBI suppressed mounds of evidence regarding its final assault on the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas, on April 19, 1993. The FBI had always vehemently denied that it had any blame for a fire that killed nearly 80 people; six years after the attack, investigators found pyrotechnic rounds the FBI fired into the building before the conflagration erupted. Attorney General Janet Reno lashed out at the FBI for destroying her credibility.

Newsweek reported that, according to a senior FBI official, “as many as 100 FBI agents and officials may have known about” the military-style explosive devices used by the FBI at Waco, despite Reno’s and the FBI’s repeated denials that such devices were used. The FBI deceived Congress and a federal judge by withholding information that it had six closed-circuit television cameras monitoring the Davidians’ home throughout the siege. The resulting films could have the key information that could resolve the major issues of Waco but the FBI withheld the tapes for years, until they were impounded by U.S. marshals.

Republicans demand second special counsel over lost FBI text messages https://t.co/iamtLDa6Ov pic.twitter.com/UkpJlFjkEF
— The Hill (@thehill) January 22, 2018

FBI evidence shenanigans destroyed the prosecution of Cliven Bundy, the Nevadan rancher who was involved in a high-profile standoff with federal agents in 2014. The feds charged the Bundy family with conspiracy in large part because the ranchers summoned militia to defend them after they claimed that FBI snipers had surrounded their ranch. Justice Department lawyers scoffed at this claim in prior trials involving the standoff but newly-released documents confirm that snipers were in place prior to the Bundy’s call for help. Federal judge Gloria Navarro slammed the FBI last month for withholding key evidence in the case.

Evidence disposal is no problem for politically-favored targets of FBI investigation. A month before the 2016 election, Americans learned that the FBI agreed to destroy the laptops of top Hillary Clinton aides after a limited examination of their contents (including a promise not to examine any emails or content after January 31, 2015) in its investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server. Four Republican congressional committee chairmen complained to Attorney General Lynch that the FBI agreement was " simply astonishing given the likelihood that evidence on the laptops would be of interest to congressional investigators.” The FBI shrugged off the Clinton team’s subsequent use of bleachbit software to erase thousands of her emails. Jeff Sessions, who was then a U.S. senator and is now Attorney General, condemned the FBI’s behavior as “breathtaking:”

“I really don’t see how Congress can issue a subpoena for records and they then destroy those records. I am telling you that every business knows that if they get a subpoena for business records, and they destroy those records, they are subject to criminal prosecution and will be prosecuted.”

Will the FBI face any consequences for its latest lost evidence debacle? In our high-tech era, it is no longer necessary to toss damning evidence into a fireplace. “Software upgrades” sounds so innocuous that only conspiracy theorists could wonder about missing smoking guns. But the FBI is no closer to being compelled to operate openly than when Patrick Gray ignited those White House files.

James Bovard is a USA Today columnist and the author of 10 books, including “Lost Rights: The Destruction of American Liberty” (St. Martin’s Press, 1994).
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Re: Release the Memo

Post by j.p. » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:07 am

they should get the god damned new special councel signed up. Trump needs few new hires to trash.

The lost text messages make for TrumpTV talking points, but harping on that is just wasting time and money. Maybe they could even revisit the Waco, Ruby Ridge, Jonestown, Bundy,911 ,Benghazi and Kennedy assasination theories while we are at it.

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Re: Release the Memo

Post by k.d. » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:32 am

A few of today's headlines.

GOODWIN: Evidence suggests massive scandal brewing at FBI...
WHISTLEBLOWER: 'SECRET SOCIETY' HELD OFF-SITE MEETINGS...
MYSTERY: 5 MONTHS OF MISSING MESSAGES...
AGENT TEXTED ABOUT DELETING TEXTS...
THREATS OF VIOLENCE?
Knives Out for Bureau...
POLL: 58% think FBI hiding something...
“Everything government touches turns to crap.”

― Ringo Starr

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