Leave it to our last (mostly) honest president...

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Re: Leave it to our last (mostly) honest president...

#51 Post by b.w. richardson » Wed May 02, 2018 4:30 pm

j.p. wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 11:17 am
b.w. richardson wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 9:31 am

I'm still a little amused that you say the thread isn't about guns, it's about misinterpreting the words, and yet you're talking about guns by the time your first post ends.

Let's discuss the words: What words in the 1791 sentence make you believe an American government has the right to ban any arms that could be used to secure a free state?

Regarding your first sentence...
I don't think I ever referred to "guns" as in plural, when making my argument. Maybe you could show me. I have referred to "a gun". The difference between "a gun" and "guns" is profound in a number of ways. I think it was no other weapon BUT the AR 15 that I thought could be restricted. If I'm wrong there please point this out.

Even the Jimmy article quote didn't refer to guns ????

Second sentence...
Words are words, right ? I won't take the same liberties as you did to spin it
1) Militia
2) necessary to the security of a free State
3) Arms
4) Infringed

The only thing that matters is:
1) 200 or so years of constitutional case law.
Fair enough. Here are the words that make me believe the U.S. government does NOT have the right to ban any guns that secure a free state:

1) the right of the people
2) to keep and bear arms
3) shall not be
4) infringed

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